Nov 6, 2013|
Thurman Thomas & Gregg Easterbrook
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Halftime -- over. That was more about John Murphy show presented by milk so. Good job. He just presented by -- supplying natural gas and electricity to thousands of homes and businesses across Western New York everybody I'm. And John Murphy show presented by no -- On Buffalo Bills radio -- favorite for a lot of our favorite parts of the week -- the hall of fame running back Thurman Thomas -- this city is life on the line with us right now live on these. Comments or questions for the hall fame running back to number to call eagle 30550 or toll free 188855550. Also are you tonight. So great on our door around. I'm great I really enjoy having out here tonight here's what you'll always have an opinion I do I love I love -- I like it better now than when you played. I've gotten adequate at the -- that is why do you preclude but it I love talking hey. Everybody's talking about and I'm sure you are full of opinions about the the the -- Intel and you know Jonathan -- situation but before we. Just overall Thurman is too much being made of this do you think. Well you know -- I think there is a place where I think a lot of it should be made -- if you look at Richard I mean those record. From you know ethernet Nebraska -- through his years throughout the National Football League -- there is reason to follow look at. Are both on the and it also reason to look at it is. You know what was organization. Where -- -- veteran players on the must be Daughtry and you know could be related. You know 2.2. -- I -- a -- fourteen and to meet that. That's. The flight import about it is that it was carry it on them where you really think about it now. Also I I would listen to Damien Woody was little I lineman for the young New York Jets and hit. You know offensive lineman or some other. People on the -- fourteen. Very don't do a lot of media they don't really talk a lot you know is always. Look the running game that not all will get the blame for the passing game goal will be a complaint but it didn't quite do their job and expect together so loved. I -- just wasn't like everybody else is as you go backs and everything to overcome our bench there's going to be some blossom on. Wherever I. Do this then that eight in the capital right now what hey you are that it can and -- You know like to delete -- hired a lawyer to investigate the allegations of what is I guess to be referred to his bullying. In the dolphins' locker room. Can you and I know you can't have bullets in the locker room have you ever seen then and in what would constitute bullying I mean what's -- -- -- -- where's the line that's the issue that's the question -- trying to get at all night there and where's the line and what crosses the line. Of blood -- look absolutely because I'm talking orders they have or ago. -- Type of player I -- around in the twelve years I was here with the Buffalo Bills in the year but I was bit. Andy Dalton does you know court. Were utilizing our rule was across. At the beginning and all this started. In I think what they get people. Armed with a lot of course there are a bit wake you. I've -- you don't have to look at -- -- may happen as they don't pull away and whom you know lot. And found work -- it -- clear that I clear where you know what. You always knew that we can kid around with each other. -- You can only take -- so far and I think -- -- -- here's a little bark they don't order would have picked you gonna take you so what we -- true. We'll put -- but we pushed through over the -- you know -- that we don't -- -- and paid no debt you know that occurred in his life but we didn't go there don't we just a bit. Says it's. You know we give it good and remember got to recognize it. So we can push a button within you know we didn't just kill Panetta met -- mom there and says you know after watching this. You know just just forget about him about what to the next where shuffle then I don't. And diagnose -- -- actually. -- that situation how everything worms and orchestrated -- talked about north throughout their. Throughout the process in a needle in more done in Miami. -- yeah and it's important to note that you're talking about verbal abuse -- you know verbal. You you don't verbal jabs being in the throw around the locker room but what about I guess you we call a -- sometimes haircuts. You know forced upon players -- taking players to go -- you know dumping a bucket of vice over players. What about that. Is that -- I. Don't think that Politico being digit Kampala. But the bigger that we ought to be is a guy who you so doesn't retaliate. There are any daylight then he goes along with a bit. You know he talks about. Obviously you're the guy had the problem. They had in and were -- Mean all our foreign gains or whatever you want -- go -- -- -- -- until March Third World order totally got but that was wrong. You know simply to meet killer goal post or wherever. You know what that's when I gave up above and it could be a man -- Zetterberg or younger players and it does go -- Velika. Yeah I was sorry we give me the ticket that's what you can -- -- gonna get upset but I think now somebody's -- -- -- Not being told the somebody's baby gaga not apologizing. -- respect and ourselves you know everybody supports Alberto. Well on the line with Devin Thomas -- fame running back it is the John Murphy -- presented by no -- you have comments or questions for third on the lines are open 8030550. -- toll -- 1888550. To -- fifty W came into the league -- round draft pick 1988. As a rookie where you forced dude sing songs. Carry equipment get a haircut what where -- where there any. Rituals -- hazing issues that the that the -- veterans put you through at that time. No we did. We did a talent show. And adapt to this -- that I hope that I'd done that by the way you know I think it's ordered. Bottom you know we didn't do Erica so -- -- good things -- that we you know we get our sure every year and pick up about. All five years you know and it got old. Italy was star into a rookie made decaying. You know what they're lucky you are a -- a key word maybe go to Kim C didn't get checked in debris on the plane. More road game -- sort of public advocate of old. Are you as the daylight you might go out there and no -- -- -- -- also -- -- among. Girl whatever you know that's. Porn as forward I know sort of twelve years in solitary their best support -- we were talking about I don't -- guy complaining. Bet you wanna go get their chicken or. Hopefully god will also a lot of also arrival wrote you can hold got really upset about it though it was no big deal. Upset yeah Alabama it was probably left there with immigrant. I think that those who are meant you know I'll do it thereby giving the money -- -- -- seizing this. Britain are so you know players and they -- a lot of great group of guys that really ever terabyte each other that wasn't gonna do it day to. Put any news about it and go public I -- about it yeah yeah. -- -- -- is that would you please go to every subject -- pleased that that's I think that's a bit. Get isn't it it and but they're -- they're great trip here you know remind you look at it didn't let what kind of leader argued -- if you look. At it and. It's just like this I'm glad we're talking about this whole issue with the Miami Dolphins let down the -- There's a coach playing -- the sermon you mention our guys might go to Marv Levy back in your day -- -- Joseph Philbin the dolphins coach is under some. Criticism here for I guess not -- and it's in the blood what do you think. Oh yeah I. You know the coaches to vote on our gross well below I think the whole organization wrote it as old old some liberals out of -- what's going on down in Miami big. Done it all it all comes down to ward type organization. And that type wearers look terrible personnel and -- world -- people who work for your organization. And I guess I'm definitely elders and Ariza buyout talks. How lessons across. Always grows owner of the Miami Dolphins yeah so I heard stories about. Endorsement stated that world he got real professional. And now I know I'm not gonna get into it on the radio. Right now blood there have been not a -- elbit (%expletive) about him so it in when you look at the old. Atmosphere out there I'm certain numbers -- Then I think well yeah I think you call for a Thurman Thomas will go to its due in Lewiston new uranium go ahead. -- are dead and buried there aren't that great although. And be any similarity between that even the team in the late 81. -- start a -- bear fruit -- game. You're barely know and gave Cleveland debate playoffs and they just get other. It's -- that there is some are out there are first aren't here. And to -- that. Well I I think there are some similarities you know. Toward this football team obviously I think when. Wonder mark you're here in 1986. -- I think that aren't yet mark got here and she's shapes and I don't I can't nor -- director to head and it's out of goat are afraid of South London air strikes here and obviously you put the clues together toward a run that we had in 1988. Are you know he was here for a couple of your you know sugarcoat it doesn't -- I don't know this first year. And I and I am and then expand every single -- single week but. They -- better. I mean the I mean you look at what probably not usually my comeback but if you look on the flip side note if they were the city were. From when he was there -- work. Into and out so far. Are you know these are editors are a team that you know what. Playoffs this year. You know just more -- -- players and -- make sure -- more competition and I definitely does David definitely you know born in the right direction so solemn you know I try to figure I would give that possibly can every single week but. Oddly enough about it and become the bank's door and see -- it didn't help your soul well I'm I'm gonna continue to stay positive. But I also voted that they worked so well. Yeah I used to you know big positive nother. -- got to know that I -- God I guess I got -- over the building and I -- he thought -- positive. -- -- I are you gonna do -- -- caught -- article administrators are good and I thought that they are important so. You know getting an economic. Garden. -- alerts are not gonna Barbara. Outside the place you need to know they're definitely at the top hundred then now. -- who ballplayers operated. Under a dark. -- -- -- below the. There Tyler -- I would let's say -- if you have a call with your. Comments and questions. What I've got one more question for you Thurman about the impact me go to the -- and think. -- of those guys come back to the league and I don't know I was gonna turn out but it's your future in the NFL port Richey and cut you know and is -- future in the league for Jonathan Martin. Well in -- I think it's I -- security -- more more on every single year you know I didn't. Are dead men to move delete now. -- character issues -- I think a lot of things. Didn't have a contract I think a lot of things that are you know they have to do a lot of community work I think we'll be years you know -- as well. Aren't as they argued terrorist borders. I haven't -- guys you know in the National Football League and obviously you know you can't. Every game because a guy could come in be in a nice guy and -- -- you know back make a bad turn and it has become a bad guys saw. I think that door and whatever they possibly can and who are not let this happen again -- you don't you wish you dead guy like. You know Larry it sure will -- seeing what you are you tired of bad natured guy that -- you know. Sure looked up. Where -- Hugo buyouts go I think there and Ecuador great job so far I think you know this will be -- -- you'll probably. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Angela situation like this little bit better. -- good point I mean maybe teams weed out guys who might cause these problems before they even wind up on the roster and your -- and we're just joking about the positive stuff but with each day on the verge of coming back. I do think -- -- and with the remaining games left on the buffalo schedule. Mom thinks things could take a pretty upward tick here in the final seven weeks here don't you agree. That opened the yeah I got really hope -- dug a -- we're back here index a couple of weeks -- we're talking a bomber blew a three game winning streak you know. And I don't I don't know if you look today -- -- you look at it and are projecting. -- -- division winners will be there whoever they may be but if you look at those acts -- swear I would think if you look at the spiritual. All of Canberra. -- -- -- -- -- Look at Georgia I'm a Democrat -- may -- 8:8 am actually about 88 but minus seven could actually end up. And it -- Kirkuk. Home. -- the patent. I know you're saying you know well it has to be one game at a time but if you look at their schedule they'll look at their body of work of what they've -- I think a lot of the biggest improvement that they've done over the last couple of weeks and I think people have talked about it object the question because they don't have that problem. -- nor does a lot of all kidding you obviously would. The closer -- arch all they want to run the ball and sort of essentially didn't bother you know getting. Easily backed -- do -- didn't know a lot of there's no I was you can just on the game he had against Kansas City last week and so are. Well. As early -- this -- -- know what they have to do and I think. Our ability to realize that hey you know what we're just a player to your game or two away from. Really aren't -- they -- -- and I looked up and not in this -- They got the double Pittsburgh -- -- into the crowd to get them for the last couple we have not been very good political urged. Well look for Thurman Thomas Steven Niagara Falls did -- -- year. There are a quick question. -- you don't get peace and played the coaching staff seemed to be there or how do -- make. What. They. Should be part of the French that's that would be in the senate. I don't you have go to the guy. Calm down here home I -- a lot of reporters. A lot of guys that I didn't win either one of them always sit up and about the weather but I think -- All of the body of -- that are big guys that they have here we're really enjoy Libyan air -- Not frustrated everybody is like the Jim Kelly -- myself or has brought. Also that continue to stay here but I do think that guy. -- on this football team in short their time here and in the buffalo area is gonna try any cabin door the regular season -- -- -- February. You know grown -- way to embrace community I mean I know for a fact that the players are outdoors well. I'll India and -- you know Q -- your day off there are visiting schools saw. I think -- -- they have really taken all the community as a whole and I think I think majority of the players. Are you know probably 95%. Of them were in love and -- I'm near buffalo. And thanks very much we'll talk again next Wednesday thank you are -- Obama saying call those are big. He had me do it's it's tough place down there you know what it's worth it but that it I would tell it -- Thanks Helen Thomas hall of fame running back on the -- this thanks very much Thurmond joins us via the F subway fresh take hotline. Subway with a special offer for bills fans with a bill scored forty points or more at home this season visit Buffalo Bills that come after all home games at Ralph Wilson Stadium for details. Subway eat fresh quick check can be done tire -- -- -- daily rundown -- tyrant who want tires you official -- of the Buffalo Bills. Giving Dunn -- customers and exclusive offer you get a fifty dollar instant rebate plus supreme bills camp with the purchase of four -- brand tires visit -- tired dot com for details. Well the bills like the fact that they -- EJ Manuel back -- practice we'll speak today but they are not ready to commit. There will be ready to go head coach Doug moron says he'll know a little bit more tomorrow after watching EJ through going to practice today but. He was asked morrow was asked of manuals return gives his his teammates a lift -- vice. Feels and whether I do you don't stand up that you when you say mean the other guys you like you know who's gonna. On shorter club but we're. It's got a lift the -- bad guy -- this. He's he would come up stuff cause we. OK I want I'd probably ask them I mean you because I don't wanna speak for them -- you know I know he's worked extremely hard you know both him and that you know a lot of players from the injury standpoint so. You know for me I'm I'm happy to see him out there because you know for a pro what I see from our players is that when they have been injured. You know it's almost like you have to work twice as hard from my standpoint imagine them because you know that -- down. Knowing that you don't wanna see that with players who want to see him excited and ready to go. This stuff when you get injured you know especially when. You know we're not getting results that we want most players think that they can go out there make a difference which you know many of them can't. -- -- -- -- -- -- That you do have shortened start on Sunday you have an expectation that he will. It's. Sort of reverse it left off and and and if you don't give this offense. Home efficiency. I think you know obviously the expectations that he's out there is obviously for us to win and answered that quite a bit. I think that bomb. What we have to be able to understand is you know here's you know. A rookie quarterback you know that miss some time in the pre season in -- and obviously now he's missed another four weeks. So. You know we have to do best child would we can't make sure that he's -- but our expectation is that we put him out there you know is obviously would put him out -- to win pebble. Well talking the media today about EJ Manuel the expectations for him and the injury report for the bills' practice for EJ Manuel today. -- Lewis well practiced for him coming up his rib injury they would be one and two with the practice week goes as scheduled manual number one -- number two going into the Pittsburgh game. No practice today for wide receiver Robert Woods with his ankle injury at -- indicated today that he does not think that. Robert Woods is going to be ready to go. But no practice for him today -- -- when no practice today with a hamstring -- indicated there's a better chance to Goodwin would play. How Williams got the day off with his Achilles strain as usual. What Wednesday often he is expected to practice tomorrow. Wade Phillips says officially been named the interim head coach of the Houston Texans while Gary Kubiak recovers from the many stroke he suffered at halftime of Sunday's game against the Indianapolis Colts and it is a rundown of the day's news the Cortez daily rundown -- by. The -- tires and contacts. A brand new book out of the book -- called the king of sports it is written by a buffalo native -- -- more west product. Gregg Easterbrook who also writes for the Atlantic monthly. And -- the Tuesday morning quarterback column for espn.com. We'll talk -- about his book Greg Easterbrook. And his book became a sports when we return to -- -- -- show presented by no go from one bills drive on Buffalo Bills -- -- -- -- more of that John Murphy show on Buffalo Bills radio. What's been called an important book for football America finalist since -- came from. Sports Illustrated -- The king of sports football impact on America. The author of the buffalo native Ken west product Gregg Easterbrook -- is out of -- this right now Greg is also. Contributing editor for the Atlantic monthly he -- Tuesday the Tuesday morning quarterback column for espn.com. Greg thank you very much coming on the -- -- -- -- bills fan are you still bills in Greg. I you have I have lifelong suffered that genetic defects. And I should. And I'm comfortable number of -- report Super Bowl losses but still a little over recent years it's been kind of hard to be optimistic about their playoff chance. Yeah well they got to get their point where he can even think about play our -- -- it's better it's been -- -- go over the last thirteen -- the -- is outstanding -- and it's getting great reviews and when you take -- -- it really is you know when you think the money and the popularity the TV ratings. It's a big target there's no question that football is the king of American sports right now right. It is and I think. And the -- polarized media culture that we're gonna live in Washington Washington she's a great example people think you have to be either in favor of something or against that. That the that you could think something really good in this case football. Has deep seated problems that need to be reformed. And new large view that's harder to -- -- mosque. But I'm trying to express -- or -- -- of sport football great. It's fabulous entertainment are underweight children football games the most -- which -- anymore but. It needs to be would mean extensive reform percent gain in education public looks subsidies and other areas. Yeah let's start arguing that you know I was thinking about this great -- I don't get the sense that baseball which was the national pastime of the last century York parliament when like -- senior horse race who were big I don't get the sense that. Those sports had the hold. An American culture that football does now do you agree and if that's so why. Well exhibited good baseball certainly was the American past some prolonged department store -- wonderful sport to watch and the statement over pleasant to play. -- -- also dominates American television. Other the number one Cho last year in primetime ratings was NBC's cynical -- let up a liberal exports over the summer when show. The number or show on cable was used against. Mean Republican definitely orange orchard at the number one show what it is about the main thing that Americans watched on television. And based on the ever had that there was a game of the week you know 3040 years ago and that was pretty much yet. Don't I think one reason the football becomes a big is that it's a sport that works on television you people -- television show and the angles and slow about reaction or you know. And explained what happened. And that they can sometimes -- to generate. You can see whether the runner receiver output. You can follow the action without commentary put or you gotta have those two vehicles that's one reason ones were brought up with emotion and that's. And unless of course you have a great play by play radio announcer like drummer funnier -- Good point thanks -- they're great is it your contention that we give him we heard talk about somebody fury to the book put. Overall like big picture of the pot do the positives and in football outweighed the negatives. Think we do but it's really touchy at this point that the main negative structurally is concussions. And and the focus of concussion should not an NFL players of that -- -- -- and nobody wants -- -- -- but there's only 2000 NFL players are four billion. Football players that you high school level that's with a concussion crisis is. And I felt players that they're adults they were making an informed choice about risk in the World Cup engine. In return almost all football concussions happen to children. Remember most critical -- legally or children or children don't really making a informed decisions about. Bridge in the way that we expect adults to the vast majority of them never received anything in return for the risk. The picnic after the concussion crisis is and that's -- -- open I think in terms of public policy and in terms of litigation exposure for a school. Greg doesn't it seem that football at all levels that may be led by the NFL is starting to get. On top of the concussion problem in terms of equipment in terms of rules changes the focus of the rules. Which are used to seeing is this problem that the right -- can use John. The other -- has all the right things about head injuries which is a -- progress over where they were just five years ago. I think we still need to make improvements where the game as well practiced and appreciated. And most importantly can we don't want an appropriate -- that is. A relatively small number of them. They set the tone and the example. For the four million kids to play and you fleet of high school and -- predicament they're welcome grudging credit but they need to do better still and setting an example a group. -- -- -- players or coaches. Greg if I can picture of a conversation I had this past the August with a couple of former Buffalo Bills in the prospectus Ralph Wilson Stadium it. A pre season game were weight around in in on that day. It was the David Villa concussion lawsuit had been nets settled by the plaintiffs in the NFL. Those players told me that if someone had walked into when they were playing point 530 years ago if someone had walked into the team meeting room and explain to them in deep field. Everything they knew about concussions that'll lead the problems associated with the concussions the risks involved. These -- they -- you know many guys would've stood up walked out of the -- quick break then absolutely none. Players except those risks that the NFL anyway. Well -- you can make an argument for that again they're adults are making informed consent decision. And receiving significant compensation in return not just. The money involved -- -- not alleged target to read leaders most of I think you're right I think most adults would say. I would take that risk interpret those benefits everything like afterward the risk against benefit it's a much more difficult actually talk about trial. And again legally allowed to replace football it's the child. And who maybe doesn't have a sophisticated understanding of what the future hold all sixteen year old boards and that there are invincible. And and end up and you don't have sophisticated understanding in the fact that. They're extremely unlikely even good athletes together recruiting poster go to college if they spend too much someone put all the danger there as they won't get regular session the college. Just a different equation for its. It's a very good point the game does take a physical told Belgrade and in the book you tell the story of former Tampa Bay linebacker Keith McCants can you give us a capsule summary of but his situation when he played in the league. Yes I just heard from keeping your prediction he would support shorts and I think that 92. Draft it was a magnificent athlete. Stressful to me it was pretty good he was never great player but had multiple injuries and sort of taken painkillers. He admits that he's to blame for the pain killers and swallowed. But nobody were forced -- technical products on the other hand he was encouraged to by coaches let the game after just a few years. Is that nothing but problems and lost all the money it was Tuesday. Probably -- I guess that's part. Was a drug addict for a long time not because addiction that. He's 45 years always -- way he walks with a cane used to describe historian a chapter called used up and thrown away. What you see on television and she's fabulous players on television. Now paid Manning could be a better quarterback and you don't cheap and examples of the for the packer forever ago it becomes appointment. There's a hundred people achieve the camps are used up and thrown away -- maybe not even go as far as Q. The camps and leave the game and bidder and physically injured or or it would or logical problems and certainly no money initial court. We're on the line with Gregg Easterbrook his book the king of sports. Football's impact on America it deals with the NFL the book also deals with. College football and great to point out that there is at least one big time BCS college program Virginia Tech that that seems to get it right tell me about beat Virginia Tech. Well that would let others looked on and there's going to be a lot of criticism of the one of the book up. Well -- criticism because or put all reformed number it was but didn't just wanna complain about additional positive example or you -- to a right. Source at the 2011. Teams in the Virginia Tech football. That that student culminated in the BC has walking into a great. Great year track being the go to runs at twenty consecutive winning seasons this year like Adobe. The 21 consecutive winning seasons and yet in 77%. Football graduation rates. It big football factory schools all graduated. 77% of their players there have been no controversy about -- -- all. Right do you the you do. Well I showed that the country just there's a chilling great future of structural things they do differently emphasized the classroom I think the most fundamental thing. Is attracting a decent human being and he would really reversing his players graduate the national championship. A decent human beings are in short supply -- all walks of life. Think you can -- you could we were replicated and cultural -- a simple example when you run down the tunnel to lane stadium blocks. Blacksburg Virginia 7000 people screaming and actually sponsoring -- leader not a player that day you pass the names and great lunch on on the wall. Of the former Virginia Tech players who have graduated. -- the stars the guys who graduated. So for years Michael vick's name wasn't there you know it De'Angelo all the -- confused -- -- -- corrupt George well. Good chuckle at the top ten of the draft is name wasn't there. On the players graduated governing on the wall. And you handle a case historical back to school in the winter a couple of years ago so we could register -- they want his name on the wall. And Alex there the you do things like that that gets that that gets the message across to a kid early on that he doesn't graduate is letting everybody else they'll. On the line with Gregg Easterbrook is book is the king of sports about football's impact on America. And I like at the end of the book you propose reforms -- including one of them reducing the severity of contacted football -- go about doing that. I've been -- aesthetic they've made the right step in the right direction and it felt like that some fans they just let the boys play who presently at each other. Well I think that should be -- a very tightly. Just to protect felt that it felt -- although that's a bicycle so. But it says the right example or art school in new players that are -- -- The main thing you would do -- reduce the number of practice hours. I think icicles or spend way to much time practicing Kabul as it is anyway you want the boards and a handful of girls who play. To -- you'll have chimed -- Did I GPA is participated next other extra curriculars. It's a couple of -- or -- hours. He cut the number of times you get hit in the head and all the researcher Sharon has not just a spectacular sports soccer -- But it still slow accumulation of lots of minor at the causes neurological damage. And when the last twenty years participation -- and high school football what that means more slow accumulation. Of gradual damage and that's with that's got a because Garko. You call for elimination of the three point stance I've never heard that suggested before great. -- that would that would have talked to some of a lot of coaches to talk about -- to change in the future. Wondering basic costs eliminated. Salomon and -- -- -- critical spot back trying to get more touch spectral. Just the limited technical. That you live in this report extension think about it. Every play that certainly were rushing play. Start with both -- sort of -- -- seven often two lines making -- contact and did contact is legally in line player. Legal with the bulk carrier mr. circumstance as you know. But in Enron play every play that's a Russian players against Pettitte got direct. If you -- the report four point stance bigger players start with a and to -- have been far fewer had a collision with the planes start. You know I loved the quote that you got from Tony Dungy. In the part about reforms is pretty simple. He said we meet and we need more time away from the -- what what -- he had -- -- You know what a lot of people I interviewed Tony Dungy was the most reflective and he was what do you would go or go on the record as saying the other a lot of curious problem for football have to -- -- And one or at least it was so were you just quoted we need time away from again it's a great game you know from August June through to Christmas. To be successful football that works for me but to be assessment for all the winter fantasy leagues and droughts and especially in high school and then and you. Change increasingly heading off season practice is that. High school -- spring games. You -- change practicing in February. I just don't get that we need time away from the game or need time away from as a as a nation to belittle or fringe on that are important besides -- -- there's no question about that Greg and yet. You know the appetite appears insatiable may be America likes football the way it is. Well you know you know people -- up in its debt every time there's a new and it felt. Television contract you think that's the limit the number just cannot. Possibly go up again and every time they do an agreement -- China's insatiable but I certainly can sports. There's no all of nature the social football has just as popular as it is right now. -- all change bulletproof. But I think that could change faster than you think that -- -- -- reform internally. Then he would have all current legal or legislature proper legislative problems in the future. And you won't be ready and do what is my final question and people that said this before you know one point boxing was America's number one sport. Horse racing was extremely popular good football in America be headed in that direction. I think it's. I can get court. I think so many more people participated in our interest you can put -- -- that boxing horse racing at their peaks. It's less likely to happen because people whose interest. My big fear what could her State's so your only concern is keeping -- a lot of as a sport which are big -- -- Your big fear would be that public high schools would stop playing. Because of litigation expenses -- get -- neurology litigation is less than a decade old. This settlement that -- the players and the player just made with the -- assuming that George programs which college world is gonna pay the average clear about selling 5000 dollars. The high school litigation that's led to awards to injured critical players. Average award of five million dollars total different magnitude of money. It -- let's go to look at those numbers and you -- -- player but it would mr. church which is the same thing. That what could make a serious earthquake in the sport of football. Greg thank you are taking a step back in taken a look at the sport that we all love so much and thank you for being on the shoulders tonight. The book is called the king of sports football's impact on America it is published by saint Martin's press the -- Gregg Easterbrook buffalo native him or what's graduate he's also writes Tuesday morning quarterback common espn.com. And contributing editor. For the Atlantic monthly. It is the John Murphy show presented by no go from one bills drive and Buffalo Bills written. So he's not John Murphy show. -- -- You make -- wrote this book is called the king of sports -- published by saint Martin's press very good book period to Xena. Arguments raised. Has some thoughts on that. Let's take a quick call what I call Tom and -- just -- time era on the year. They are. Because. The question I mean electronic road America understands the sports it picked up well and I even doubt there's certain -- also on. And I understand that and aspect of the human element and or. They and it's important. We need to stop -- beginning beat. All are getting new flag here. And it -- -- that we locked. If you look at the -- we draw the sport they'll. -- feel we have general we have the troops and quell fears it would be like Kevin welcome with all the sort it's important. -- are beginning that the relational jobs would be lost -- -- are. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Because it's not just the -- it's the pitchers that -- reload they say it's it's. It's the struggle. Guys it's another guy -- input into how we're gonna get there and work. They're all books are being. And that they know what -- work out well and get it out and do that -- you start picking somebody important thing in the back. -- the three point Intel do this and that. We get to a point where. Where we what are we -- I think that would be -- do the other -- that wouldn't the -- that debate you a revenue or disappear. Yeah good -- some and I think given your name in. More realistic terms when when they movie kick off line backward kick returner is essentially out of the game is a plane now. And there is serious consideration about taking kickoff straight out of the game and and I have a problem with -- I think the kick outs are an important part of the game but. You know the league is trying to you know first of all the -- not to kill the the golden goose here and trying to keep the money flowing secondly they're trying to preserve. What elements of the game they can while making it to -- they can't for the players and it's a difficult -- CNET. 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